The Fantastic Baggys

Phil: All of the guitars on the Baggys were me...I played with a 1963 fender jazzmaster....We really weren't able to afford anybody else.....!

Tell 'Em I'm Surfin' - Q: The first single.  Was this the first recorded?  As a Jan & Dean track first?  How did it come to be a single and then an album project?  Phil: It wasnt recorded as a Jan & Dean track....We (Steve and I) weren't getting any songs recorded at this time...just a couple of guys in a dead letter office is what the west coast office of Screen Gems was then...Since we were replacing the Matadors, Jans BG group, and the Matadors had a Liberty recording contract, Adler decided to make some bucks by selling us the same way....Tell em im surfin was a singles session....for that reason Liberty liked it, obviously, and bought the package for an LP....When it appeared that it might be successful, Adler told us he didnt want Steve and I to be out there he wanted us as writers only...So that was the story with every effort we made...The Grassroots and even my own recording...fine if its just a pastime, but they will quash any efforts that look like they may become successful....

Summer Means Fun - Q: Bruce & Terry had the hit and their version fantastic.  Can you talk about why Steve Barri sang the lead on the Baggys version.  Which one was recorded first?  Phil: The Baggys version came first....I wanted to Steve to sing something on the album as i was doing all the leads and i chose that song for him...

Anywhere The Girls Are - Q: Great song.  Can you talk about the various inspirations (Don't Back Down, Money etc)?  Can you talk about the hits in South Africa?  Phil: Obviously Money, the Barret Strong version of the song.....Steve and I were allowed to have hits in Europe and S Africa just not the US...If Steve would want to go tour which at first he did, the publishing co. discouraged it...If you mean the S African group who took up the name the Baggys?  We find out about it years later, after Adler cancelled our contracts with Liberty...He didnt want any chance of our getting out there...It seems they knew that and just jumped into the void.....

Debbie Be True - Q: Can you talk about why it was not an A side?  Sounds like Jan Berry is singing on the middle eight.  Were you imitating or is that him?  Phil: Debbie was a demo for Jan & Dean and so i did a little copy of his vocal to show him what it might sound like...That caused Jan to have me double his own voice on a number of Jan & dean records....It wasnt an A side probably cuz Jan held on to it as a demo......

Save Your Sundays For Surfin' - Q: Another great song.  What are your thoughts on this song?  Why was it not released on the album or as a single?  Phil: This was a demo song...after the publishing company told us to stop writing surf songs that the baggys project was dead, i continued to write........

Hot Rod U.S.A. - Phil: Hot Rod  was a Terry Melcher production....I'm only guessing now, but probably tommy tedesco and Glen Campell...

Rincon Surfside Band


Phil: The same goes for this LP as well...I played the basic tracks sometimes with two different guitar feels and then added an elect solo guitar or organ solo

Skateboard Craze (Willie & The Wheels) - Phil: Not guilty but i did play all da guitars

The Rip Chords

Phil: On these songs im playing lead guitar and solos.....(Big Gun Board, One-Piece Topless Bathing Suit, Surfin' Craze, This Little Woodie. Wah-Wahini)

Summer Means Fun (Bruce & Terry) - Phil: Im doing the solos and rhythm track...Tedesco played on this one i think

Garbage City
(The Street Cleaners) - Phil: like wise

That's Cool, That's Trash (The Street Cleaners) - Phil: who else?  You dont think Campbell would do this song?

Beach Girl (Pat Boone) - Phil: didnt play on this puppy

Jan & Dean

(Here They Come) From All Over The World - Phil: Lead electric 12 string and electric rhythm with Tedesco and Campbell

I Found A Girl - Phil: Campbell i believe was the elec 12 string leads on this and Tedesco overdubing elec rhyth...i dont believe i played on this session

The Grassroots

Phil: The same goes here with all the Grassroots records and LPs that i produced..There were some exceptions like Youre A Lonely Girl where i taught the guitar leads and rhythm parts to the original band...

Letís Live For Today
- Phil: Lead guitar and electric rhythm....Rob was playing 12 string i believe

Out Of Touch - Phil: creed bratton plays lead....im playing all the rest of the guitars

Things I Should Have Said - Phil: all the guitars

Wake Up, Wake Up - Phil: all the guitars

Where Were You When I Needed You - Phil: all the guitars

The Thomas Group

Q: Can you talk the whole Thomas Group project?  Who sang lead?  Who sang the harmonies?  Who chose the songs? Phil: While i was there i chose the songs....They were signed because Adler was dating Toni Thomas' sister That Girl...Marlo...i believe,,,,Toni played drums, Greg sang lead...i had a  fascination with the Vogues style of harmony and so i thought we'd try it out....

Autumn - Q: Beautiful song, pity it was not a hit.  Phil: I still wanted to get a Vogues record...dogged and stubborn as can be i was  For some reason they were the talk of the town at the time and i very much liked their record Youre The One...Also It was a chance to put into the music riffs that had been created and waiting for a vehicle as to  get them used...so i could move on...

Don't Start Me Talkin' 'Bout My Baby - Phil: a goffin king kind of rip off ( after all being uder contract to screen gems the home of goffin and king...nobody would record my/our songs...so we ripped them hoping they wouldnt notice...

Penny Arcade - Phil: Just a song we finished and asked them if they'd like to record it

Then It Begins - Phil: had some nice riffs...

Herman's Hermits

Phil: the Hermits played on their records but i did play accoustic on A must to avoid

A Must To Avoid - Phil: i wrote the song downstairs in the dressing room of  a sunset strip rock club...Donovan was performing that night and his manager Mickey asked me if i would write a song called A must to Avoid for the hermits movie...problem was he was leaving the following day and needed it right away,,,I went downstairs and borrowed one of Donovans guitars and sketched out the song...The next day i told Barri about it and he helped with some of the lyric...I cut a rough demo on it and gave it to Mickey....When the Hermits came into LA to record it, i taught the guitar parts to them and the song there in the studio...

Hold On - Phil: Hold on was written quickly as well....A must to avoid they decided did not a motion picture title make...So they changed it to Hold On...and i wrote it the next day...Was it about my personal experiences...yea

Terry Black

Phil: Im playing all the guitars again...(Can't We Go Somewhere, Everyone Can Tell, How Many Guys, Kisses For My Baby, Little Liar, Only Sixteen, Ordinary Girl, Poor Little Fool, Say It Again)

Unless You Care - Phil: Glen Campell takes the solo

Rainbow - Phil: Sorry dont remember this one

Say It Again - Q: The Trousdale Demos CD dates this as 1966 a year after the Terry Black version.  True?  Wasn't this and most of the songs that Terry Black recorded already written before he was signed?  Phil: No...Unless you care i wrote when i was just a lad of 16 by myself...i wrote it for Elvis...Before Terry was signed i played it for his manager and thats the reason he signed with Dunhill...Same goes for Little Liar ...another song i wrote as a kid...But the rest of the album songs were written with Steve and for Terry...

The Turtles (Let Me Be, You Baby, Can I Get To Know You Better)

Phil: The turtles played their own records so the guitars would be Al Nichols

Barry McGuire

Phil: On all the Mcguire records im playing accoustic and the solos (Eve Of Destruction, Child Of Our Times, This Precious Time, You Never Had It So Good)

The Mamas & Papas


Phil: Im doing all the electric solos and all the electric guitars plus 6 string accoustic leads while John Philips is doing 6 string and 12 string accoustic

California Dreamin' - Q: One of the all time great intros!  Phil: yea this famous intro is phillips and myself.....John Phillips is playing 12 string im playing 6 string and lead electric  Q: Can you talk about how the guitar intro was conceived?  Who wrote it?  Can you also talk about the original three chord version of the song as written by John Phillips and how you built on that (chord-wise)? Phil: Mcguire brought the Mamas into the studio to help him sing back ups...
Phillips had the song California Dreamin...played it for me and asked if there was anything that could be done with it...i asked him if he remembered Walk Dont Run by the Ventures...he didnt...so i played it for him and thats how the song changed into its familiar chordings now...As for the intro i decided to play counter harmony to what Johns intro was and thats how that happened....

Bittersweet (The Robbs) - Phil: Im playing  Q: Another top notch pop single.  Are you also assisting on backing vocals?  How was this song written?  Did you think it had a good chance as a single?  Did the Robbs pick the song?  Phil: Yes to all of the above....

He's My Man (Ann-Margret) - Phil: Definitely my fuzz guitars,  a tube started cracking doing the session and began to fuzz... the session producer Lou Adler said hey whats that sound?  So he wanted it to distort even more so i sat there kicking it with my foot while we recorded it...

Hey There, Mary Mae
(Don & The Goodtimes) - Phil: ya know im not really sure, but i believe they cut this cut this in Seattle or Portland...i wasnt on it

Pardon Me (It's My First Day Alone) (Steve Alaimo) - Phil: Steve Alaimo was a big star at ABC and i remember i wasnt allowed anywhere near the sessions.....

See Ya Round On The Rebound (Shelley Fabares) - Phil: You get my song you get the guitar player if you want it....

P. F. Sloan

Phil: I did the guitars on all these songs but one......(And The Boundaries In Between, Another Day, Another Heartache, Baby I Can't Stop Myself, Can I Get To Know You Better, Child Of Our Times, City Women, Cling To Me, Danger Man, From A Distance, Halloween Mary, Here's Where You Belong, I Can't Help But Wonder, Elizabeth, I don't Want To Say Goodnight, I Know You'll Be There, Is It Any Wonder, It's Too Late Baby, Karma (Study Of Divinations), Let Me Be, Lollipop Train (You Never Had It So Good), The Man Behind The Red Balloon, Miss Charlotte, My First Day Alone, Say It Again, See Ya Around On The Rebound, The Sins Of A Family, Spinning Wheel, Springtime, Sunflower Sunflower, There's Something About You (released as Terry Black), These Are Bad Times, This Is What I Was Made For, This Precious Time, Troubled Mind, What Am I Doin' Here With You, You Baby)

New Design - Phil: Steve Cropper and myself.....

And The Boundaries In Between - Q: Another beauty.  How? Where? Why? Phil: Why: Needed a song for the atco sessions....WHere: Muscle Shoals How: who can tell  Wrote this in a hotel room in Muscle Shoals for the measure of pleasure Lp with Tom Dowd the producer....I hadnt written any songs yet...but 3 days before the sessions i came up with them...what I hadnt realized at the time is that i  plagarized the first few lines from an emily dickenson poem ...the name of which i cant remember anymore! (damn) This taints this song for me....Perhaps i will be able to get permission from her estate and give her the credit it deserves....if and when there is a CD made of this LP.  That would be wonderful...Now if i can find the name of the poem?  Phil (again): i did an internet search and found that it is not Dickenson but Edna St Vincent Millay written in 1921..

I Don't Want To Say Goodnight - Q: Perfect pop melody and teenage lyrics.  How did you come up with this one?  Phil: This is one of Barri's titles....

Halloween Mary - Q: Were you disappointed in this not achieving chart success like Sins?  What's you opinion of the song? Phil: I dont know...it did well in england and japan...I thought it was a hoot!!!! i still do!

From A Distance - Q: What are your thoughts on this one?  Phil: Beautiful song..... sensitive sentiments...love to perform it

Sunflower Sunflower - Q: Very well produced and a good shot as a single, eh?  Phil: One does one's best eh?

Springtime - Q: Great acoustic.  Great lyrics.  Phil: A song i wrote for a lady who later abandoned los angeles and myself...

Spinning Wheel - Q: What the story here?  Another side of Sloan?  Phil: Another level....A love song...the only way i hoped i could get through to someone...The women i know claim to love sensitivity and music but in reality they dont ...trust anyone or anything...

God bless us all

phil
P. F. Sloan - Who Played What?
P. F. Sloan (Phil) was asked who played guitar on the tracks below.  He also added some commentary relating to the writing, the recording sessions as well as the politics and marketing of pop music in the sixties.                                                                                        - June 17. 2003